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Ask The Batemaster: Full Erection Isn’t Necessary?

A full erection is not necessary for the full enjoyment of masturbation

QUESTION: You say a full erection isn’t necessary all the time while you masturbate. But it sure feels incredibly great! Plus, it looks so hot! So why not? I don’t really get it…

RESPONSE: An erection is one of the great wonders of Nature, for sure. It feels incredible, as you say, and it looks fantastic too! Only it is not necessary for the full enjoyment of masturbation. In fact, when you allow your state of erection to increase, and decrease somewhat before it gets fully engorged again, you’re just following a natural rhythm.

Because the stiffness and softness of your penis depends on two basic sources—mental and emotional arousal, along with physical touch stimulation—the results are not always extremely clear-cut or simple. It is possible to experience a lot of pleasure while stimulating a flaccid penis. Also, if you are hugely erect, but mentally stressed and distracted, you may not experience nearly as much pleasure as you might otherwise. You may ejaculate without a full orgasm; you may also have dry orgasms without ejaculation, of course!

While you are in your late teens, twenties, and even his thirties, you may enjoy sturdy and upright erections that can remain firm and engorged for long periods of your enjoyment. However, for a variety of reasons, in your fifties, sixties and seventies and beyond, erections may be less frequent, less firm, and not as long-lasting. Also, some men become somewhat “disabled” by health issues, or psychological traumas that may inhibit the quality and quantity of erections.

This is when you may learn that you can enjoy a lot of pleasure if you lubricate and stimulate a penis that remains quite flaccid. Of course, other health issues, or medications may interfere with how effective such drugs as Sildenafil (AKA Viagra) are in helping with erectile dysfunction that occurs for various reasons.

However, if you take good care of your health, avoid excessive drinking, smoking, caffeine, get a decent diet, plenty of exercise, hydrate, sleep, and keep a good attitude going, with an added pinch of luck, you may very well enjoy quality erections throughout your life.

The exercise I call “anal breathing” can certainly help to maintain the health, quality and quantity of your erections. There is a lot to “If you don’t use it, you lose it,” so I suggest that even if you are not a total “bate addict” it is a good idea, both physically and psychologically for any man to masturbate at least some every day.

If you feel you are “too busy” for this, you might want to question your priorities! Anyway, a full erection is not necessary all the time during any masturbation session—let it come and go like the Moon. Still, full erection is certainly always one of life’s precious and delicious treasures to experience whenever possible!

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.


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How Bruce P. Grether became the Batemaster

Among his earliest memories, Bruce recalls seeing an adult man’s penis swing about anchored in a nest of curly brown hairs when the man was changing clothes. That penis fascinated him and he somehow knew it was of major importance. He also remembers how good it felt to slide down a stairway banister or to climb a tree with pressure between his legs sending delicious sensations all through his body.

At an early age, he played doctor with another boy his age, and the frottage he enjoyed as they rubbed their penises together made him feel One with All Things.

He was older, maybe 9 or 10 years when he figured out how to actually masturbate while taking a shower. Immediately Bruce became a fan of self-pleasure, though, with puberty, he became extremely shy about his body being seen. Still, when his pubic hair sprouted and his penis grew bigger, it astonished him how incredible the sensations could feel with adult genitalia.

All through his 20s and 30s Bruce loved masturbating and did it often. Something kept tell him though, that there could be more to it. None of the books he read about Tantra and Taoist erotic cultivation provided simple how-to instructions. Finally, in his early 40s, he came upon Joseph Kramer’s video about male genital massage: FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

Having no playmates to try this with, he tried it on himself. In the process, he discovered what he soon named “Mindful Masturbation.” For 6 weeks he masturbated for hours every day, and did not ejaculate once! This was the Penis Paradise he had been looking for since his adventures playing doctor as a young boy. He was changed forever and lost most of his shyness and insecurities.

Bruce began to listen deeply to whatever his penis told him. This way he learned more and more about male masturbation, the penis, and he studied human sexuality. Soon he was hired to write professionally for the sex education site JackinWorld (dot) com, which he did for some years under the name “Bruce McFarland.”

Since then, his erotic activism is more radical and he uses his actual given name: Bruce P. Grether, AKA the Batemaster. He has hosted workshops and now does online masturbation coaching. In 2012 his best-selling book THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN PHALLUS was published and with his handsome young friend Blue Tyger he created the Erotic Engineering site to explore advanced male self-pleasure practices.

Bruce considers himself a Missionary of the Male Mysteries and his work continues.

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6 Comments

  1. Usually masturbate twice. First is fully erect; 2nd isn’t. Cum both times but lot less the 2nd. Both feel great and my Fitbit records it as “outdoor biking”.

  2. Thanks for posting this most important information. I’m sure that many men worry that the inability to get and maintain an erection means the end of their sex life and if they depend solely on penetrative sex for fulfillment then they are correct. However for masturbators like myself it is of no consequence at all. I’m a 76 year old solosexual and I discovered years ago that I could enjoy masturbating with a soft or semi-hard penis just as much as a rock hard erection. So I no longer even think about what state of hardness that my penis is in I just enjoy that great feeling of arousal while edging my penis. I can continue edging for hours at a time and my penis won’t get sore like it would if I was rock hard for that long and I can orgasm while completely soft with just as much pleasure as if I was fully erect. So thanks again for explaining to our brother masturbators that an erection isn’t necessary for our pleasure.

  3. There are two factors that are important for having a long-lasting erection even as you get older:

    1) Staying in shape and lean
    2) Maintaining high testosterone levels

    As you get older, your blood vessels usually get clogged with fat and can supply let blood to the penis. In order for your penis to enjoy a steady blood supply, you need to stay in shape, have low cholesterol levels (through your life, not by taking pills) and avoid other illness such as high sugar levels (they destroy the smaller blood vessels known as Capillary)

    Having high testosterone can be tricker but it also has to do with staying in shape and lean. Abdominal fat is the #1 killer of testosterone. You need to keep you belly flat even as you get older.

  4. So true, don’t let softys stop you from masturbating, if you have the urge to. Over the eons things have changed for me downthere.

    Starting in my early teens I got fully & wonderfully erect for my masturbation sessions. Then in my early 20’s I discovered I could not get erect for sex with a gal (no matter what I/we did). It was still pleasureful fiddling around together and exploring and of course so exciting to help make the gal orgasm.

    Then I’d go home (or sometimes on the way home) to masturbate and I’d get so erect, pleasure myself and cum easily. But of course it was always frustrating getting together with a gal for sex but with a softy – penetration was out of the question. And always carrying that “thought” around with me whenever I got attracted to a gal.

    As I got in my 60’s I stopped getting erect for my bates as well. Not sure if its a health issue (diabetes) or the medications I take. I do miss getting erect but I still fully enjoy my masturbation sessions and orgasms. And masturbate daily.

    Hopefully my comments make some sense and assist other bators.

  5. One of the results of working from home for me is the freedom to let my hands wander throughout my workday. I am not talking about true traditional masturbation breaks of which I am fully participating in throughout the day, but rather the sensual touching and genital massage that I have been giving myself when I don’t have the ability to fully engage in self love but rather the ability to multi-task while on the phone or zoom call or whatever during work. I have been shocked at how much pleasure I can enjoy in this manner at which points I am often unaroused or at most semi aroused due to the distractions of work. It has made me realize how much pleasure we can receive without being erect and I find it very enjoyable and something I intend to find a way to maintain permanently.

  6. Thanks, Bruce, for providing this thread. I’m 79 and still enjoy bating and am presently practicing edging and following all that great advice from “Mindful Masturbation.” I’ve followed that for about 8 years now.
    The neatest thing happened to me, just yesterday: on a dare to myself and on the recommendation of a new friend, I visited a massage therapist who provides “happy endings.” He offers therapeutic, sensual, and erotic massages and I chose the last one. I didn’t really know what I was in for, but it turned out to be fantastic. The massage itself was not firm enough (I have lots of tension in my lower back and neck/shoulder areas), but when the masseur started in with my penis and balls, I thought that it wouldn’t really work. Bu t he was so skilled and patient with me, even telling me to be quiet when I started in about being on bp and prostate meds. I had also come the day before, thinking I wouldn’t be able to do that again, but I was wrong. This guy gave me a wonderful bate and I came, not in great buckets as of yore, but enough for him to wipe away.
    If any of your readers can find such a person in their area, they are truly blessed with a great gift. And, for an old man, always concerned about erections, it was a nice surprise. I’m going back and will probably ask for a therapeutic massage with a happy ending, if he’ll provide it. The cost was much lower than I’d expected. I recommend it! Oh, and he was naked as I was and invited me to play with his penis and balls and caress any part of him I wanted to; I was at first reluctant to do this with a complete stranger, but boy, did it work!
    Now, if only I could convince some of my buds to have a threesome or foursome when we could bate together, maybe frot–that would fulfil a dream of mine I’ve had for a long time, ever since viewing your “Brotherhood of Men” videos.
    I can’t thank you enough for the kind of education you provide for men around the world.