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Ask The Batemaster: A Variety Of Ways To Buddy Bate

Mutual masturbation between guys can be enjoyed a lot of different ways.

QUESTION: There are several buddies I love to bate with. We agree—no oral or anal. We just enjoy mutual, a lot of frot too, only can you suggest some different positions? Mostly it’s side-by-side, or standing and rubbing our cocks together, which is great. But how can we add some more variety? What’s the best way to get more than two guys involved?

RESPONSE: Great questions, and it sounds like you guys have a great thing going! First of all, mutual masturbation between guys can be enjoyed a lot of different ways. Something that really helps is to establish some verbal communication about what each of you likes best. Be very specific. Be willing to demonstrate for each other. Guide each other’s touch—literally, your hand on his. Not too much chatter ahead of time, but agree to share during the session, as each guy’s preferences for speed and pressure vary. Also keep in mind too much talk can be distracting.

Side-by-side works great for mutual, and even three or four guys can take turns with who strokes whose penis and balls—that’s right, don’t forget caressing balls, playing with them gently and carefully. If asked to, pull them with care. You can also stroke each other sitting face-to-face and take turns with another guy watching and stroking as active witness.

It’s possible to recline on your sides facing each other, masturbating each other, and a third guy can lie behind one, or a fourth also behind the second guy, and put his erect penis between your upper thighs, a classical form of frottage. The guys frotting from behind can also sometimes reach around and masturbate the guys in front, from behind. Also, two guys on their sides may want to switch around head-to-tails so-to-speak and engage in a kind of masturbatory 69 position. This variation allows some nice ball play, along with different views.

You can also create a kind of mutually masturbatory daisy chain, three guys in a triangular arrangement, each one stroking the guy on his left, or his right, and these directions can be coordinated, or you can just improvise so sometimes two converge on one, and he may stroke both of the others. Of course, such daisy chains can theoretically include as many guys as wish to play this way!

As for frot, there are plenty of variations you can figure out. One guy can lie back or sit, and another guy straddle his lap to bring their penises and balls together. As always, for all these variations, I suggest plentiful lube. With two guys frotting penises together in some variation of this, the two can take turns rubbing the erections together, while the other can masturbate another guy standing or kneeling nearby, or even two guys at their sides. Vary the strokes of rolling lengthwise, sliding along the length, or rubbing penis heads together.

Of course, there is the frot between a guy’s thighs, as described above from behind, or from the front. Bot mutual masturbation and frot can be especially powerful when you engage one another’s eyes deeply, and each focus on pleasuring the other guy (or guys) will add to your own penis pleasure. These mutual and frot combinations can be varied endlessly.

Some words of appreciation and encouragement now and then to your playmates can also work wonders!

I hope this may have inspired a few new variations for you.

The Bate Master - Bruce P. GretherBRUCE P. GRETHER is the “BateMaster”. Mr. Grether’s lifelong love of penises and masturbation has led him to achieve a level of mastery and understanding of masturbation that is at once unique and extremely rare. He is renowned for both his ability to achieve seemingly endless states of prolonged and intense masturbatory pleasure as well as his skill in passing this knowledge on to his students. Mr. Grether has made it his life’s mission to encourage men to take their practice of masturbation to new levels of personal enrichment and self-discovery.

Mr. Grether is a globally recognized masturbation activist, an accomplished masturbation coach, and a tireless facilitator of masturbation workshops. In 2001 he coined the now popular term “Mindful Masturbation”. He is the author of a best-selling book, The Secret of the Golden Phallus, plus the erotic fantasy novels The Moontusk Chronicles. His website can be found at www.eroticengineering.com.

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.<


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How Bruce P. Grether became the Batemaster

Among his earliest memories, Bruce recalls seeing an adult man’s penis swing about anchored in a nest of curly brown hairs when the man was changing clothes. That penis fascinated him and he somehow knew it was of major importance. He also remembers how good it felt to slide down a stairway banister or to climb a tree with pressure between his legs sending delicious sensations all through his body.

At an early age, he played doctor with another boy his age, and the frottage he enjoyed as they rubbed their penises together made him feel One with All Things.

He was older, maybe 9 or 10 years when he figured out how to actually masturbate while taking a shower. Immediately Bruce became a fan of self-pleasure, though, with puberty, he became extremely shy about his body being seen. Still, when his pubic hair sprouted and his penis grew bigger, it astonished him how incredible the sensations could feel with adult genitalia.

All through his 20s and 30s Bruce loved masturbating and did it often. Something kept tell him though, that there could be more to it. None of the books he read about Tantra and Taoist erotic cultivation provided simple how-to instructions. Finally, in his early 40s, he came upon Joseph Kramer’s video about male genital massage: FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

Having no playmates to try this with, he tried it on himself. In the process, he discovered what he soon named “Mindful Masturbation.” For 6 weeks he masturbated for hours every day, and did not ejaculate once! This was the Penis Paradise he had been looking for since his adventures playing doctor as a young boy. He was changed forever and lost most of his shyness and insecurities.

Bruce began to listen deeply to whatever his penis told him. This way he learned more and more about male masturbation, the penis, and he studied human sexuality. Soon he was hired to write professionally for the sex education site JackinWorld (dot) com, which he did for some years under the name “Bruce McFarland.”

Since then, his erotic activism is more radical and he uses his actual given name: Bruce P. Grether, AKA the Batemaster. He has hosted workshops and now does online masturbation coaching. In 2012 his best-selling book THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN PHALLUS was published and with his handsome young friend Blue Tyger he created the Erotic Engineering site to explore advanced male self-pleasure practices.

Bruce considers himself a Missionary of the Male Mysteries and his work continues.

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  1. I am really interested in delving deeper into Phallic worship, learning the history and developing my practice. I’m really keen to get deeper into my penis worship journey. I don’t alwayshave the ability to practice with others although I would love to. I’m looking for resources available for the practice of penis worship rituals. I’m based in the U.K. and interested in meeting other like minded guys

  2. Are there any guys who bate laying face down frotting & rubbing on your dick at a flaccid state? It’s possible as I do it and have done since day one.