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Ask The Batemaster: My Partner And I Bate With Other Guys, But…

QUESTION: We’re a happy couple: I’m 41 and my partner is 37. We’re not married, but we love each other a lot. Both of us adore the bate as much as anything, except maybe oral 69 between us two. We’ve been together 12 years and now branch out to bate with other guys, but my BF sometimes seems to feel left out. I see it in his beautiful eyes! What should I do?

RESPONSE: Your situation sounds great in a lot of ways, probably the envy of quite a few men! However, you might want to back off a bit just temporarily from pursuing the group bate with other men until you’ve communicated thoroughly on the subject with your partner. Just possibly he may have agreed to share the bate with other guys at least in part because he knows you really want to share that way.

Possibly your partner really wants to also, but he may not be quite as ready as you are for the actual experience. The fact that he’s a few years younger than you are, and possibly not quite as experienced and confident as you are sexually, could play a role. Rather, he may actually be more experienced in some ways, and may feel that your relationship is somewhat compromised by this, even if not actually threatened. Such emotions are not totally subject to reason.

In such a situation, a loved one, partner, spouse, or husband may find it difficult to be totally honest when they are concerned with pleasing you—or even possibly concerned that if he does not agree, that in itself could be hard on your partnership. My suggestion is that you tread carefully and consider holding off for now. As I suggested, take the time and make the effort to communicate honestly with your partner.

Some male couples feel secure enough, some communicate honestly enough to know that they have no secrets from each other, and their love for each other is mature enough that neither one feels threatened when they choose to “play” with other guys. At twelve years together, you guys may have reached this point, or almost, or not; some couples may never reach that point. However, because you really love each other, it’s worthwhile to be surer than you sound about this before you proceed.

I’ve observed that genuinely loving couples are relatively rare, even in the gay world where it takes more of some kinds of effort, and yet may seem easier in other ways to relate to an individual of your own sex. Such secure love seems even rarer in the heterosexual realm. My opinion on this may seem radical to some, but I observe that to understand the erotic and psychological needs of a partner of your own sex is more natural, than to comprehend and harmonize with your biological opposite.

Regardless of the sex or sexuality of a partner, if the relationship feels especially good, it’s worth taking care not to mess things up. Very possibly, your partner mainly needs to know how much you truly love him. Tell him that you are willing to back off from masturbating with other men, together or separately (you did not specify) unless you can feel sure that it will not endanger the special relationship between you two.

Tell him exactly what you said here, that you feel you can see it in his beautiful eyes that he may not feel so certain about this. Then hug him, hold him tight for a while and kiss him plenty. Such 3-way or group play works well for some male couples who can enjoy masturbating with men as a soft of “different category” from other intimacy. And it does not work for other couples.

I would err on the side of caution, take your time, and think of his needs before your own.

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.


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How Bruce P. Grether became the Batemaster

Among his earliest memories, Bruce recalls seeing an adult man’s penis swing about anchored in a nest of curly brown hairs when the man was changing clothes. That penis fascinated him and he somehow knew it was of major importance. He also remembers how good it felt to slide down a stairway banister or to climb a tree with pressure between his legs sending delicious sensations all through his body.

At an early age, he played doctor with another boy his age, and the frottage he enjoyed as they rubbed their penises together made him feel One with All Things.

He was older, maybe 9 or 10 years when he figured out how to actually masturbate while taking a shower. Immediately Bruce became a fan of self-pleasure, though, with puberty, he became extremely shy about his body being seen. Still, when his pubic hair sprouted and his penis grew bigger, it astonished him how incredible the sensations could feel with adult genitalia.

All through his 20s and 30s Bruce loved masturbating and did it often. Something kept tell him though, that there could be more to it. None of the books he read about Tantra and Taoist erotic cultivation provided simple how-to instructions. Finally, in his early 40s, he came upon Joseph Kramer’s video about male genital massage: FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

Having no playmates to try this with, he tried it on himself. In the process, he discovered what he soon named “Mindful Masturbation.” For 6 weeks he masturbated for hours every day, and did not ejaculate once! This was the Penis Paradise he had been looking for since his adventures playing doctor as a young boy. He was changed forever and lost most of his shyness and insecurities.

Bruce began to listen deeply to whatever his penis told him. This way he learned more and more about male masturbation, the penis, and he studied human sexuality. Soon he was hired to write professionally for the sex education site JackinWorld (dot) com, which he did for some years under the name “Bruce McFarland.”

Since then, his erotic activism is more radical and he uses his actual given name: Bruce P. Grether, AKA the Batemaster. He has hosted workshops and now does online masturbation coaching. In 2012 his best-selling book THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN PHALLUS was published and with his handsome young friend Blue Tyger he created the Erotic Engineering site to explore advanced male self-pleasure practices.

Bruce considers himself a Missionary of the Male Mysteries and his work continues.

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