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Ask The Batemaster: Cyberbating VS. Real Life

Develop your solo practice; those skills will come in handy when you actually find someone to share meaningful sessions with feelings, and in-person.

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QUESTION: It’s a shame to have to beat off alone all the time. To share the experience gives it a whole new meaning and a whole new outcome. But how can I really achieve that in person, in the flesh, with real meaning and feeling?

RESPONSE: This is a great question! It’s also of relevance to many guys on this site, I’m certain. Given today’s Internet full of horny guys with cams who might be willing to masturbate with you online, at least in Cyberspace, there is no need to do it alone all the time. Most definitely this is one of the most wonderful things about digital realities, that you can potentially masturbate on cam with guys masturbating on cam anywhere on the planet!

Seems to me, however, that one key in your question is the phrase “with real meaning and feeling.” This may in fact require a willingness to get to know guys a bit more than just agreeing to share a session, then “Wham-bam-thank-you-sir!” Understandably, lots of guys are still just wanting to get off, and sometimes still unwilling to show their face to you on cam. Still, neither one of those helps you attain something more personal and individual.

There is nothing wrong with an impersonal cam session just to get off—only it is quite a different animal from the willingness to spend a little time getting to know each other, and then taking the time to slow down and really enjoy sharing your erections and self-pleasure sessions. This latter type of situation is far more fulfilling to me, personally.

Still, you’re also asking about how to achieve this in person, and in the flesh: in-person social masturbation. That may prove trickier, though in today’s world this is also improving. The Internet provides effective search functions, and particularly the only site that is actually all about it: Bateworld. To locate and connect with guys in your own area for actual masturbation sessions together may not be so easy. I don’t want to discourage you, but this is still pioneering territory, and hopefully a major wave of the future, especially to connect for sessions with real meaning and feeling.

In today’s world of male masturbation, there are “Jacks” clubs in many major cities. Though that can be sexually hot, it may not always be very personal. In such a group you may find men willing to make it a bit more meaningful, as well. There are special gatherings, such as the Cock Summit promoted on BW, and the Men’s Festivals, Midwestern and California.

You might try creating a group here on BW that is geared towards your area, and towards actually meeting for sessions. Be sure to get acquainted via online chat before you ever share a phone number in a private message. Not to be paranoid, but then talk on the phone for a while to get to know him. It’s also wise to set up a first meeting in a public place. Meet for coffee or lunch. If a guy is sincerely interested in more than a hasty jack-off, he should be willing to meet publicly first, and to get better acquainted.

Good luck finding Phallic Brothers to share with. It’s happening more and more these days, so even if it takes a while, don’t get discouraged. Meanwhile, develop your solo practice; those skills will come in handy when you actually find someone to share meaningful sessions with feeling, and in-person.

The Bate Master - Bruce P. GretherBRUCE P. GRETHER is the “BateMaster”. Mr. Grether’s lifelong love of penises and masturbation has led him to achieve a level of mastery and understanding of masturbation that is at once unique and extremely rare. He is renowned for both his ability to achieve seemingly endless states of prolonged and intense masturbatory pleasure as well as his skill in passing this knowledge on to his students. Mr. Grether has made it his life’s mission to encourage men to take their practice of masturbation to new levels of personal enrichment and self-discovery.

Mr. Grether is a globally recognized masturbation activist, an accomplished masturbation coach, and a tireless facilitator of masturbation workshops. In 2001 he coined the now popular term “Mindful Masturbation”. He is the author of a best-selling book, The Secret of the Golden Phallus, plus the erotic fantasy novels The Moontusk Chronicles. His website can be found at www.eroticengineering.com.

A note from The Batemaster: I’m honored that the guys at Bateworld have asked me to respond to some questions from male masturbators around the world every week.

Always check with your doctor about any issues you might be experiencing with your sexual organs. Prompt diagnosis and treatment are important. This article’s purpose is to inform and entertain readers and is not a substitute for medical advice or treatment.


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How Bruce P. Grether became the Batemaster

Among his earliest memories, Bruce recalls seeing an adult man’s penis swing about anchored in a nest of curly brown hairs when the man was changing clothes. That penis fascinated him and he somehow knew it was of major importance. He also remembers how good it felt to slide down a stairway banister or to climb a tree with pressure between his legs sending delicious sensations all through his body.

At an early age, he played doctor with another boy his age, and the frottage he enjoyed as they rubbed their penises together made him feel One with All Things.

He was older, maybe 9 or 10 years when he figured out how to actually masturbate while taking a shower. Immediately Bruce became a fan of self-pleasure, though, with puberty, he became extremely shy about his body being seen. Still, when his pubic hair sprouted and his penis grew bigger, it astonished him how incredible the sensations could feel with adult genitalia.

All through his 20s and 30s Bruce loved masturbating and did it often. Something kept tell him though, that there could be more to it. None of the books he read about Tantra and Taoist erotic cultivation provided simple how-to instructions. Finally, in his early 40s, he came upon Joseph Kramer’s video about male genital massage: FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

Having no playmates to try this with, he tried it on himself. In the process, he discovered what he soon named “Mindful Masturbation.” For 6 weeks he masturbated for hours every day, and did not ejaculate once! This was the Penis Paradise he had been looking for since his adventures playing doctor as a young boy. He was changed forever and lost most of his shyness and insecurities.

Bruce began to listen deeply to whatever his penis told him. This way he learned more and more about male masturbation, the penis, and he studied human sexuality. Soon he was hired to write professionally for the sex education site JackinWorld (dot) com, which he did for some years under the name “Bruce McFarland.”

Since then, his erotic activism is more radical and he uses his actual given name: Bruce P. Grether, AKA the Batemaster. He has hosted workshops and now does online masturbation coaching. In 2012 his best-selling book THE SECRET OF THE GOLDEN PHALLUS was published and with his handsome young friend Blue Tyger he created the Erotic Engineering site to explore advanced male self-pleasure practices.

Bruce considers himself a Missionary of the Male Mysteries and his work continues.

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  1. I agree, masturbation really is meant to be a team sport. Gosh, I was a total soloist for many years and then with computers I discovered cybering off. I’ve always drawn the line there. Never have done anything for reals with a guy. Cyber seems to suit my needs. I’ve chatted with others who’ve gone to bate groups or found others to hook up with 1 on 1. And I’ve chatted with guys who have small groups come to their homes for bate sessions. I have looked up our local bate club online but never went any further than that.

    I think your advice is a good for those looking to meet other bators for reals, be sure to make a “connection” before getting together. Phone is the better option than just emailing.

    1. Most def there are a million ways to kiss the ground! So many ways for men to thoroughly enjoy masturbating: solo, with a buddy, in groups; cyber, and in person. It’s mainly on the last that it’s wise to slow down from excitement just a bit to be sensible and careful. And even online, I suggest it’s great to treat anyone with respect and kindness. “Bate with others, as you would have them bate with you.”

    1. In my opinion, they both offer benefits. In general, exploring either one or both helps expand our sexual terrain. Our comfort zones. Our sexual skill sets. For me, I’m a cyber bator and enjoy being able to chat so openly about masturbation with another fellow bator. Sharing the pleasures, the sights, the sounds, our techniques and history. And using skype – leaves our hands free for pleasuring while we chat & bate.

      But I’ve not yet tried doing it for reals with a guy. Just not something I currently plan or wish to do. Yet I can imagine the excitement and thrills it likely offers sharing a bate session in person with a fellow bator. To actually see and hear our faps and groans for reals. Must be intoxicating.
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  2. Cyberbating has another meaning as well. It occurs when one “likes” his/her own comment after posting. It is pleasurable but not climactically so.